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Post by objectirl on Jun 14, 2024 13:29:10 GMT
Self explanatory title, a dedicated thread to our AU where we go over how Paper from Inanimate Insanity is written and add onto it to mend the issue of the S1 writing fitting into horribly demonizing DID stereotypes. The first thread post will be updated with the most important information as development for the AU continues. We have autism, so our writing may be hard to understand, weirdly or incorrectly worded or have typos at times. Please ask for clarifications if you don't understand something or notify for need of corrections if there's any mistake made!
To give easy context for the AU's existence in-case you have not really kept up with any of our previous posts: Hi, we are a DID system and Paper is one of our favorite object media characters! Initially, we really hated him for the stereotyped writing, but as our object show special interest grew stronger (and still is going strong, even if the top spinterest spot has been secured by something else by now) he really grew on us. And as that and improvements of our own life went on, we began realizing it's actually really worth to give a "fix-it" AU a go, as the issue with Paper & his headmate's portrayal is not that "Evil Paper" exists in the first place! Persecutors and otherwise really angry and even violent headmates are not uncommon within the systems, after all. The issue is that E.P. is presented in an extremely one-dimensional way that doesn't go much into why such an alter exists in the first place, and how they may feel and think beyond the showcased anger and violent tendencies. Parts of it can sooooort of be inferred, like E.P formed after traumatizing circumstances and presumably after Paper himself experienced the same emotions E.P would, and him voting OJ on the contestant voting elimination in S1EP13 shortly after he gave E.P. the "Evil" nickname suggesting, although very unintentionally, that he haaaates being referred to as such, but that is only from a lens of someone(s) who *is* a system and has enough knowledge and experience to understand persecutors well! The before-mentioned nickname and the entire arc ending up in headspace violence and how it's discussed afterwards doesn't help at all. Although Paper rarely shows up post-s1 and his s1 arc was an absolute mess for a large portion of it, we still see a lot of potential in him and his headmate, and we do find Paper an genuinely interesting character! To fix the issues, there doesn't even need much to be changed in our opinion, our approach is simply exploring the events of canon from E.P.'s direct perspective, elaborating more on Paper's perspective *and* keeping the arc going past the point where it seemingly ends in canon towards a storyline about Paper learning to properly accept and learn about his systemhood and co-living with his headmate(s) more peacefully and functionally by helping E.P. We are not going to take out what OJ did either, as while it *is* shitty, we think it *could* work as a genuine plotpoint about OJ hurting E.P & Paper despite well intentions towards Paper that he has to grow from once made aware of it.
Further context tid-bits for future stuff besides the basics of why the AU exists and our approach to it: - We do not have a name for Paper's system in the AU yet, this point will be updated when we do!
- Past the thread introductory point, we will no longer refer to Paper's headmate as "Evil Paper" outside the actual AU story material, as we are simply not very comfortable with it. Both in the AU and otherwise, our preferred nickname for them is *Page*.
- In the AU, Page uses they/them pronouns (they may be referred to by he/him in early material by other characters, but this is only for narrative purposes), although we do not have any particular gender headcanon for them at time of posting.
- Paper's system decides pursuing functional multiplicity in this AU.
- There are OCs present in this AU in form of other headmates in Paper's system and when the canon cast is not fit to believably move a plotpoint along, some very minor or outright one-off others.
- This AU is technically a "fix-it" AU, but functionally it's more like an expansion on canon material AU.
- All ship content is not canon to the AU, but there are other ship-focus AUs that use this one's story as a foundation/branches off from this one. They are still going to be in this thread, but marked as spin-offs. This is done to preserve the original purpose of the initial iteration of the AU.
- Currently, the AU has no name, this point will be updated when it does!
Disclaimers & content warnings: A lot of this AU is based upon *our own* personal experiences with DID and are not to be taken as a definite way to view both DIDsystems or any system in general, as systemhood is extremely diverse, even in context of just DID. It is also not a definite way an AU exploring Paper's systemhood further and fixing the flaws of canon can go, so anyone else is free to make their own try at it! As the AU goes in-depth with the specifics of DID, it *will* explore trauma, dissociation/depersonalization, violent/destructive/self depreciating/self harming thoughts and behavior, headspace conflict and violence, mental spirals & ableism. More warnings may be added as we develop the story further.
"Official" AU content directory: To be added, eventually ;P
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Post by treasuredguardian on Jun 14, 2024 23:39:47 GMT
Sounds interesting! I think it's nice to see an AU that works with the idea of Evil Paper being an alter in a more respective way. I have never really liked Paper's writing, but I never really liked the AUs that erase the "alter" connotations of the character entirely either. I feel there really could be a way to make the plot work, just in a more accurate and tactful manner of course.
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Post by objectirl on Jun 15, 2024 9:04:03 GMT
Sounds interesting! I think it's nice to see an AU that works with the idea of Evil Paper being an alter in a more respective way. I have never really liked Paper's writing, but I never really liked the AUs that erase the "alter" connotations of the character entirely either. I feel there really could be a way to make the plot work, just in a more accurate and tactful manner of course. Mhm! While we don't like the canon writing, we find erasing the fact Paper canonically has DID, even if it's not called that by name within the show itself infinitely more offensive. There is so little DID rep that all it serves is to take away one of the few crumbs us systems do have and show us that people don't want to put in the effort to commit to portraying us, and it really really really sucks.
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Post by objectirl on Jun 15, 2024 9:13:17 GMT
Sounds interesting! I think it's nice to see an AU that works with the idea of Evil Paper being an alter in a more respective way. I have never really liked Paper's writing, but I never really liked the AUs that erase the "alter" connotations of the character entirely either. I feel there really could be a way to make the plot work, just in a more accurate and tactful manner of course. Mhm! While we don't like the canon writing, we find erasing the fact Paper canonically has DID, even if it's not called that by name within the show itself infinitely more offensive. There is so little DID rep that all it serves is to take away one of the few crumbs us systems do have and show us that people don't want to put in the effort to commit to portraying us, and it really really really sucks. Would like to clarify that effort mentioned doesn't even have to be knowing literally every little tidbit. Just don't dramatize things, portray every alter as a person with their own feelings, aspirations and complexes, don't treat any of them as evil people and recognize even the bad traits come out of just fear and trauma, and find a DIDsys or multiple willing to help (Hey, that's us! We certainly don't know everything ever bc as said, DID experiences are very diverse, but we're more than willing to talk about ours if it helps and give advice on if something passes the vibe check or not for portrayed ok) if you're unsure about something!
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Post by objectirl on Jun 16, 2024 5:48:52 GMT
Thought we should actually update on state of progress for the storyline. We're still mulling over details that'd take place in S1 chronologically, but for the most part it's worked out and we're good to start bullet-pointing a solidified timeline down soon. Then comes the point where it diverges into more plotbeats purely from just us because Paper doesn't appear much in S2, but we're still gonna rewatch S2 first just for not feeling like we're messing up the vibe somehow. Which is a kind of hard task for us due to fictive reasons but we'll pull trough. We do like S2 we just have le disorderrr @_@'
Also gonna tinker with design concepts soon (mostly Paper & Page's headspace forms, but we're also considering making Page have a preferred accessory to wear when fronting whenever they can)! Gonna keep the "base design" as close to canon-typical designs, but def making monster object alternate designs... Can't resist being a furry, aha
Once the designs are done, we're prolly gonna redraw the few AU pieces we already had before this thread/re-focusing on developing the AU more actively and now also publically with the new ones. There's just a storyboard and one msPaint doodle, but still.
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Post by objectirl on Jun 16, 2024 5:50:07 GMT
Neat little fact we couldn't find place to put in the base-post, but we began the AU somewhere in late 2021. It's 3 years old this year... This does go to show how slow we're at developing stories lol
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Post by objectirl on Jun 16, 2024 5:55:16 GMT
Once the designs are done, we're prolly gonna redraw the few AU pieces we already had before this thread/re-focusing on developing the AU more actively and now also publically with the new ones. There's just a storyboard and one msPaint doodle, but still. Not even sure if we have the storyboard anymore in digitalized form. We may still have the actual paper sheet though. We'll check for both when we can, this animation storyboard was monumental for setting some of the tone of the AU. Sorry for posting so rapidly, this AU and the characters it's centering are very special to us,,,
Edit: no photo. We don't have the time to look for the sheet today either <:'P
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Post by objectirl on Jul 18, 2024 10:03:07 GMT
Once the designs are done, we're prolly gonna redraw the few AU pieces we already had before this thread/re-focusing on developing the AU more actively and now also publically with the new ones. There's just a storyboard and one msPaint doodle, but still. Not even sure if we have the storyboard anymore in digitalized form. We may still have the actual paper sheet though. We'll check for both when we can, this animation storyboard was monumental for setting some of the tone of the AU. Sorry for posting so rapidly, this AU and the characters it's centering are very special to us,,,
Edit: no photo. We don't have the time to look for the sheet today either <:'P
You'll never believe what turned up during the first art pile sorted into the packing box (we're moving in fall). That's right. The storyboard for an animeme of this AU, the first ever art for it we believe.
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Post by objectirl on Jul 21, 2024 17:23:21 GMT
The only reason we've not posted it is that we disagree with the way we chose to visualize concepts AND the Page design we had at the time. The Paper (headspace edition) one isn't our fav either, but for that one we still remember the idea and think it's a bit funny (it has doodles all over him from other headmates added before he was like, aware of anything to do with the system. Likely not a detail that we'll keep, though). If anyone's curious for what it was for, it was an animation meme (Fighter, specifically). It's not really like, super unreflective of the AU story per-se, but actually visually beyond the core idea? Oh man, it's very noticably dated and way behind how we would make choices of both character and scene design now. It has been 3 years.
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Post by objectirl on Jul 21, 2024 17:30:42 GMT
The only reason we've not posted it is that we disagree with the way we chose to visualize concepts AND the Page design we had at the time. The Paper (headspace edition) one isn't our fav either, but for that one we still remember the idea and think it's a bit funny (it has doodles all over him from other headmates added before he was like, aware of anything to do with the system. Likely not a detail that we'll keep, though). If anyone's curious for what it was for, it was an animation meme (Fighter, specifically). It's not really like, super unreflective of the AU story per-se, but actually visually beyond the core idea? Oh man, it's very noticably dated and way behind how we would make choices of both character and scene design now. It has been 3 years.
Simply put, Page looked too generic. There was simply not enough elaboration and thought of the design so it just came off as edgy and nothing more, which for an AU meant to expand on Page really doesn't work. Like, by all means, it makes sense someone who presumably formed to be a persecutor would not look all cuddly in headspace, but the aspects that reflect a sense of edge were just picked at random! It really did suck and even without that, with more years to our (ex)persecutor's (multiple of em) lifespan there's so much more we could do with the design anyways.
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Post by objectirl on Sept 18, 2024 10:55:08 GMT
Oh boy, this AU... We did not forget about it, but ever since II2ep16 we've been thinking of how to adjust it to fit newly revealed info.... There are multiple sections of the "lore" we have to throw out entirely for the AU as result. Really unfortunate.
One thing we've already settled on, though. Paper was not created to have DID, it developed in a more real life typical way on Idiotic Island. We don't really inherently dislike the implication of some of the contestants being made to be disabled, however due to just... our own relating to Paper we'd rather write him differently than that for this AU.
It's not necessarily a disagreement with other approaches though. As said in the introductory post, anyone else is free to make their own take on a fix-it for Paper+sys.
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