Post by treasuredguardian on Aug 24, 2024 21:21:05 GMT
As I've mentioned before, I've been into Object Shows since 2014. With Battle For Dream Island being my first object show. That said, as much as I like object shows, BFDI was never one I was too big on. At least that would be the case once BFB rolled around. Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed the show a LOT. Has plenty of funny moments. It's just that watching BFB in real time kind of burnt me out, and I just simply lost a lot of my passion for it and went on to other (mostly non-OSC) things. It happens.
I know, even at it's worst it's not as egregious as II. I'm not big on either one, but I'm more drawn to II because the first season is "so bad it's funny", and I find the flaws consistent throughout the series as a whole to be fascinating. (We don't talk about Invitational)
Besides the issues I have with BFB's characterization and storytelling, I just found it boring. It wasn't entirely awful, but it just wasn't engaging or entertaining to me. I watch BFDI to be entertained, which is one of the show's main priorities anyway.
That said, I have been meaning to rewatch the first 3 and a half seasons of BFDI. I might not like the show as much as I used to, but that doesn't mean I don't like it entirely. That and I want to jog my memory over past details. I've been rewatching II(2) from time to time so it's only fair.
"What about Post-Split and TPOT?" Well. I'm just not interested. I didn't enjoy pre-split, I feel I won't really enjoy later seasons if it's just more of the same. I don't have a reason to watch either of them at this point. There were only 2 things keeping me from being bored there, and both of those have long been resolved.
This time I listed my thoughts into a document as I watched. I'll list some of the highlights here, along with more fleshed out thoughts. Keep in mind, I don't really have nearly as much to say about it as the likes of II. I hope this doesn't go against the rules or anything. ^^;;
As of this post, I've watched up to BFB 1.
BFDI
I know Golf Ball isn't the friendliest of people, but she gets so much shit for having the most rational methods. I feel for her rivals/enemies it would be funnier if she had more banter rather than just being ignored for a much worse method. It's funny sometimes, but other times I feel a lot of comedic potential can be done that way too.
I love these fun visuals that show up whenever the host explains the challenge or someone is having a conversation. It feels like the animators are having fun doing so, which is nice.
I love how almost everyone in BFDI are either varying degrees of jerks or eccentricity.
I don't care much about him as a character, but Rocky got robbed man. Ice Cube had more to do in revival BFDIA, and even YELLOW FACE is doing more than dumb ads. I get that not everyone can be fleshed out, and that's fine Especially in the case of BFB and TPOT. It's just weird that BFDI is giving attention to all of these neglected and/or one Note characters and not Rocky. Even in BFDIA 13 he was just in the background. I don't think every character needs to be fleshed out by any means. It's just that Rocky’s performance in later seasons isn't really much. He's pretty much dead weight. At least here he was able to hold on his own. I dunno, if Rocky was initially introduced as a gag character I wouldn't be as harsh.
To be honest, I can't exactly blame people voting mean characters in children. Sometimes mean characters are just…. Not written that well… Or boring. Just like how any other archetype can be the same depending on execution. It's understandable if the character is in the middle of an arc, but if they just do the same thing with no signs of anything else… Yeah.
The GO visual is a classic.
I miss this characterization of Icy. In later seasons she's either really really meek or really bitter. Especially in BFB where the writing had to change ALL of Freesmart’s personalities for drama that isn't bad in concept, but not a natural progression for any of the characters involved. For pre-revival BFDIA I can kind of understand given that the Huang twins couldn't find a replacement VA for her.
If BFDIA/IDFB is going to REALLY commit to tying every loose plot thread, then I'm going to dread the inevitable attempt to explain how Pencil got crueler over time.
Honestly, at this point I've just given up on the Book plot. It's a good idea in a vacuum, just not well written for the reasons stated above… Among other things.
I love it when there are moments of slapstick basically dedicated to the twins wanting to convey fun facts about science.
What does Z stand for, Leafy? >_>
The “Referenced by…” section for BFDI doesn't make a lick of sense. Mention of budget cuts doesn't automatically mean it's a BFDI reference?
What is this, the American School System? It's just a -C!
I've always wondered if the choices were even random or not. The fact that the alliance got a group of their own points to not really. At least for this episode.
Why did the Announcer tell Snowball to go look for Golf Ball, but not Coiny? Did he know that Ice Cube fell in the water?
You can tell that they had to use a panning shot since as far as I know, older versions of Flash didn't have a built in Camera feature.
HOMESTAR RUNNER REF. Do most people even know it was inspired by that? I'm pretty sure that cartoon was very popular back then.
I forget that the Pencil box joke wasn't a one off. They actually shoved her there.
I love how this show keeps tracks of all of these patterns LOL
It's so funny that they dedicated a whole scene to Ice Cube dying in the most elaborate way possible.
This, my friends, was peak object show animation.
Needle got votes? She just got out… plus she got reduced to a joke once it was clear the twins couldn't voice her anymore.
I wonder if those BFDI posters are real…?
"See? You're so dumb. You don't even know what you are!"
GOOOOOOOOOOOO
First tear? Not sure how I feel about what that implies but whatever.
I find it interesting that people used to like Rocky at some point.
Leafy pro bullet hell player
Also pink is technically a tint of red?
I wish BFDI DDSs were real.
I still don't get how Firey was so popular this season. An Everyman can work in a cast full of goofballs, but Firey has nothing going for him besides a few funny gags here and there. As much as I don't care about it, the Firey/Leafy plot in BFDI was the most interesting he's ever been.
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The Arm Cutter joke gets me every time. It looks worse with context.
90% sure the innuendo with Pen holding a Pen was intended.
I like how they couldn't have Leafy’s item stab her so they just gave her a weird face instead.
Cheaters never win
Pen is kind of a boring character anyway. He does more for the everyman trope than Firey this season, so he has that going for him.
WHATEVAAAAA
This episode has one of the VERY FEW interactions Leafy has ever had with Firey prior to the last 3 or so episodes.
Remember when Bubble wasn't a push over?
I miss it when Leafy's flaws weren't so blatantly… evil? I hate what BFB 2 did to her
O_O
You're made of fire, you can melt it.
I love how the budget gradually gets worse and worse as the show progresses.
Again, I miss this characterization of Ice Cube and Pencil(the latter is better in BFDIA, I'm just referring to a time where she had redeeming qualities)
8 by 9 by 11
I love how third place gets so little compared to the other placements LOL
THE APPLAUSE OH MY GOD it's almost as if they were rooting for them to lose
If they translated Roboty’s speech consistently, people wouldn't hate him as much.
Just imagine… instead of Fireafy we get… Uhhh… What is the ship name for Bubble and Leafy?
“That's because we don't say anything? HAHAHAAHAH!”
A piece X_x
I love how objects sometimes just default to killing people when they are frustrated
Would Bomby even do much if he got in?
If only later seasons remembered Leafy's intentions…
Pencil pro bullet hell player
She didn't do anything wrong?
The speech retcon man
She got eliminated for… Playing fair????? I don't get it, this isn't even Pencil at her worst. David literally scared people to progress.
Borderline (for context, this is referring to Bubble pointing out her tumultuous relationship with Leafy. I KNOW they just wanted to make Leafy flip-floppy for conflict and nothing else, it's just my favorite headcanon for her)
I forgot how short BFDI episodes used to be
I know people find David annoying, but he wasn't even overbearing with the jokes in his short time in the game
Literal plot armor
FORESHADOWING (not click bait)
Well, now you know why the stars drift away
LETS GOO BEST SONG
What do humans even look like in this show?
Ahh.. The start of the Firey-Leafy plot. Their chemistry isn't really compelling or fun in this season. Not as fun as Bubble and Leafy’s bickering... ....Sigh….
Budget cuts save lives
Firey should have GOTTEN OUT
TREASURE CHEST
Tempting fate
Who doesn't love pizza?
Is Metal Ball the Bubble Counterpart? The other members of the final four have their own
See? Leafy may be petty, but she does make genuine efforts to be kind to people
O_O
The start of the “MIA host” trope (I know it's not exclusive to object shows, but it a very commonly used one in the genre)
What about the poison??????
Implying they are homeless?
LOL NIGHTMARE MOON
Seriously, Firey is like BOTO's Shieldy in that he has literal plot armor that gives him an advantage in some situations. Not really complaining, just an observation.
Are the two people in the letter about the Announcer Recovery Center meant to be commenters?
“You can be in my alloy!”
Yeah, I still can't buy Firey and Leafy’s season 1 friendship. It's just them being nice to each other and nothing more.
She gets bad bitches
(for the record, I don't ship anyone in this show, I just thought this was funny seeing as Leafy gets shipped with just about everyone)
OBJECT LORE writing this down
BUBBLE SWEEEEEEEEP
I wish the voters actually did it. I don't hate him, I just think it would have made more sense if Bubble or Leafy won.
YOU IDIOT
Little did he know the consequences this ride would bring
I still wonder how different things would be if Bubble won.
It's almost like the viewers made it go down on purpose LOL
The No More Advertisement gag sure aged…..
What's with the purple spots on the sandal.
LOL
He's right.
I love how they did it just to show off their animating skills LOL
GOIKY IN NORTH POLE??????
I wonder if the hidden message really was intentional
Flower really went there. I know she hates the guy, but it would make more sense if it was a lower ranking contestant.
O_O
Thanks Golf Ball
Sigh :’]
No wonder Fireoiny shippers loved this episode LMAO
And I thought Leafy was floppy flippy
So ""serious""……..
In general, I'm glad that all of the episodes have captions now. It can be hard to understand what the characters are saying sometimes(especially LOSER).
And that's BFDI! I wouldn't consider it perfect by any means. A lot of the characters are very much one Note, and God bless if you were a character with more than 2 personality traits. I can only list just a few characters who were at their best this season.
Leafy is uh… She's definitely one of the more rounded out characters here… I don't remember much of her performance on BFB since she was pretty bad before she got out. And I am NOT watching post split. She wasn't really shown much in BFDIA before her death. I want to save my verdict on Leafy for BFB. I will say Leafy had a lot going for her between her trust issues and standards, but I'm not fond of the way BFB 2 took it.
I'd say Bubble was at her best here too, but that's not saying much when she wasn't around for most of BFDIA and BFB sucked for all of FS.
What I find charming is how you can see JNJ is clearly having fun with making these. From the tiny split second Easter eggs to stuff such as the Ice Cube Recovery gag.
I know, even at it's worst it's not as egregious as II. I'm not big on either one, but I'm more drawn to II because the first season is "so bad it's funny", and I find the flaws consistent throughout the series as a whole to be fascinating. (We don't talk about Invitational)
Besides the issues I have with BFB's characterization and storytelling, I just found it boring. It wasn't entirely awful, but it just wasn't engaging or entertaining to me. I watch BFDI to be entertained, which is one of the show's main priorities anyway.
That said, I have been meaning to rewatch the first 3 and a half seasons of BFDI. I might not like the show as much as I used to, but that doesn't mean I don't like it entirely. That and I want to jog my memory over past details. I've been rewatching II(2) from time to time so it's only fair.
"What about Post-Split and TPOT?" Well. I'm just not interested. I didn't enjoy pre-split, I feel I won't really enjoy later seasons if it's just more of the same. I don't have a reason to watch either of them at this point. There were only 2 things keeping me from being bored there, and both of those have long been resolved.
This time I listed my thoughts into a document as I watched. I'll list some of the highlights here, along with more fleshed out thoughts. Keep in mind, I don't really have nearly as much to say about it as the likes of II. I hope this doesn't go against the rules or anything. ^^;;
As of this post, I've watched up to BFB 1.
BFDI
I know Golf Ball isn't the friendliest of people, but she gets so much shit for having the most rational methods. I feel for her rivals/enemies it would be funnier if she had more banter rather than just being ignored for a much worse method. It's funny sometimes, but other times I feel a lot of comedic potential can be done that way too.
I love these fun visuals that show up whenever the host explains the challenge or someone is having a conversation. It feels like the animators are having fun doing so, which is nice.
I love how almost everyone in BFDI are either varying degrees of jerks or eccentricity.
I don't care much about him as a character, but Rocky got robbed man. Ice Cube had more to do in revival BFDIA, and even YELLOW FACE is doing more than dumb ads. I get that not everyone can be fleshed out, and that's fine Especially in the case of BFB and TPOT. It's just weird that BFDI is giving attention to all of these neglected and/or one Note characters and not Rocky. Even in BFDIA 13 he was just in the background. I don't think every character needs to be fleshed out by any means. It's just that Rocky’s performance in later seasons isn't really much. He's pretty much dead weight. At least here he was able to hold on his own. I dunno, if Rocky was initially introduced as a gag character I wouldn't be as harsh.
To be honest, I can't exactly blame people voting mean characters in children. Sometimes mean characters are just…. Not written that well… Or boring. Just like how any other archetype can be the same depending on execution. It's understandable if the character is in the middle of an arc, but if they just do the same thing with no signs of anything else… Yeah.
The GO visual is a classic.
I miss this characterization of Icy. In later seasons she's either really really meek or really bitter. Especially in BFB where the writing had to change ALL of Freesmart’s personalities for drama that isn't bad in concept, but not a natural progression for any of the characters involved. For pre-revival BFDIA I can kind of understand given that the Huang twins couldn't find a replacement VA for her.
If BFDIA/IDFB is going to REALLY commit to tying every loose plot thread, then I'm going to dread the inevitable attempt to explain how Pencil got crueler over time.
Honestly, at this point I've just given up on the Book plot. It's a good idea in a vacuum, just not well written for the reasons stated above… Among other things.
I love it when there are moments of slapstick basically dedicated to the twins wanting to convey fun facts about science.
What does Z stand for, Leafy? >_>
The “Referenced by…” section for BFDI doesn't make a lick of sense. Mention of budget cuts doesn't automatically mean it's a BFDI reference?
What is this, the American School System? It's just a -C!
I've always wondered if the choices were even random or not. The fact that the alliance got a group of their own points to not really. At least for this episode.
Why did the Announcer tell Snowball to go look for Golf Ball, but not Coiny? Did he know that Ice Cube fell in the water?
You can tell that they had to use a panning shot since as far as I know, older versions of Flash didn't have a built in Camera feature.
HOMESTAR RUNNER REF. Do most people even know it was inspired by that? I'm pretty sure that cartoon was very popular back then.
I forget that the Pencil box joke wasn't a one off. They actually shoved her there.
I love how this show keeps tracks of all of these patterns LOL
It's so funny that they dedicated a whole scene to Ice Cube dying in the most elaborate way possible.
This, my friends, was peak object show animation.
Needle got votes? She just got out… plus she got reduced to a joke once it was clear the twins couldn't voice her anymore.
I wonder if those BFDI posters are real…?
"See? You're so dumb. You don't even know what you are!"
GOOOOOOOOOOOO
First tear? Not sure how I feel about what that implies but whatever.
I find it interesting that people used to like Rocky at some point.
Leafy pro bullet hell player
Also pink is technically a tint of red?
I wish BFDI DDSs were real.
I still don't get how Firey was so popular this season. An Everyman can work in a cast full of goofballs, but Firey has nothing going for him besides a few funny gags here and there. As much as I don't care about it, the Firey/Leafy plot in BFDI was the most interesting he's ever been.
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The Arm Cutter joke gets me every time. It looks worse with context.
90% sure the innuendo with Pen holding a Pen was intended.
I like how they couldn't have Leafy’s item stab her so they just gave her a weird face instead.
Cheaters never win
Pen is kind of a boring character anyway. He does more for the everyman trope than Firey this season, so he has that going for him.
WHATEVAAAAA
This episode has one of the VERY FEW interactions Leafy has ever had with Firey prior to the last 3 or so episodes.
Remember when Bubble wasn't a push over?
I miss it when Leafy's flaws weren't so blatantly… evil? I hate what BFB 2 did to her
O_O
You're made of fire, you can melt it.
I love how the budget gradually gets worse and worse as the show progresses.
Again, I miss this characterization of Ice Cube and Pencil(the latter is better in BFDIA, I'm just referring to a time where she had redeeming qualities)
8 by 9 by 11
I love how third place gets so little compared to the other placements LOL
THE APPLAUSE OH MY GOD it's almost as if they were rooting for them to lose
If they translated Roboty’s speech consistently, people wouldn't hate him as much.
Just imagine… instead of Fireafy we get… Uhhh… What is the ship name for Bubble and Leafy?
“That's because we don't say anything? HAHAHAAHAH!”
A piece X_x
I love how objects sometimes just default to killing people when they are frustrated
Would Bomby even do much if he got in?
If only later seasons remembered Leafy's intentions…
Pencil pro bullet hell player
She didn't do anything wrong?
The speech retcon man
She got eliminated for… Playing fair????? I don't get it, this isn't even Pencil at her worst. David literally scared people to progress.
Borderline (for context, this is referring to Bubble pointing out her tumultuous relationship with Leafy. I KNOW they just wanted to make Leafy flip-floppy for conflict and nothing else, it's just my favorite headcanon for her)
I forgot how short BFDI episodes used to be
I know people find David annoying, but he wasn't even overbearing with the jokes in his short time in the game
Literal plot armor
FORESHADOWING (not click bait)
Well, now you know why the stars drift away
LETS GOO BEST SONG
What do humans even look like in this show?
Ahh.. The start of the Firey-Leafy plot. Their chemistry isn't really compelling or fun in this season. Not as fun as Bubble and Leafy’s bickering... ....Sigh….
Budget cuts save lives
Firey should have GOTTEN OUT
TREASURE CHEST
Tempting fate
Who doesn't love pizza?
Is Metal Ball the Bubble Counterpart? The other members of the final four have their own
See? Leafy may be petty, but she does make genuine efforts to be kind to people
O_O
The start of the “MIA host” trope (I know it's not exclusive to object shows, but it a very commonly used one in the genre)
What about the poison??????
Implying they are homeless?
LOL NIGHTMARE MOON
Seriously, Firey is like BOTO's Shieldy in that he has literal plot armor that gives him an advantage in some situations. Not really complaining, just an observation.
Are the two people in the letter about the Announcer Recovery Center meant to be commenters?
“You can be in my alloy!”
Yeah, I still can't buy Firey and Leafy’s season 1 friendship. It's just them being nice to each other and nothing more.
She gets bad bitches
(for the record, I don't ship anyone in this show, I just thought this was funny seeing as Leafy gets shipped with just about everyone)
OBJECT LORE writing this down
BUBBLE SWEEEEEEEEP
I wish the voters actually did it. I don't hate him, I just think it would have made more sense if Bubble or Leafy won.
YOU IDIOT
Little did he know the consequences this ride would bring
I still wonder how different things would be if Bubble won.
It's almost like the viewers made it go down on purpose LOL
The No More Advertisement gag sure aged…..
What's with the purple spots on the sandal.
LOL
He's right.
I love how they did it just to show off their animating skills LOL
GOIKY IN NORTH POLE??????
I wonder if the hidden message really was intentional
Flower really went there. I know she hates the guy, but it would make more sense if it was a lower ranking contestant.
O_O
Thanks Golf Ball
Sigh :’]
No wonder Fireoiny shippers loved this episode LMAO
And I thought Leafy was floppy flippy
So ""serious""……..
In general, I'm glad that all of the episodes have captions now. It can be hard to understand what the characters are saying sometimes(especially LOSER).
And that's BFDI! I wouldn't consider it perfect by any means. A lot of the characters are very much one Note, and God bless if you were a character with more than 2 personality traits. I can only list just a few characters who were at their best this season.
Leafy is uh… She's definitely one of the more rounded out characters here… I don't remember much of her performance on BFB since she was pretty bad before she got out. And I am NOT watching post split. She wasn't really shown much in BFDIA before her death. I want to save my verdict on Leafy for BFB. I will say Leafy had a lot going for her between her trust issues and standards, but I'm not fond of the way BFB 2 took it.
I'd say Bubble was at her best here too, but that's not saying much when she wasn't around for most of BFDIA and BFB sucked for all of FS.
What I find charming is how you can see JNJ is clearly having fun with making these. From the tiny split second Easter eggs to stuff such as the Ice Cube Recovery gag.